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Old September 16th, 2015, 17:32   #1
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Frog Lube Gunking up

So I've been using Frog Lube in its liquid tube form in my pistols for a while, with proper application (taking apart my guns and heating up the parts with a heat gun before application). While it works beautifully after been freshly applied, Ive noticed that it has a tendency to gunk after a while. Usually after a 2-3 week period it gets really sticky, affecting the performance of my pistols.

So what is this normal? Should I just field strip and re-lube my Gbbp's every time I'm about to use them ? Or maybe I just got frog lube in the wrong format (liquid instead of paste)

While I love the minty fresh smell of my guns this is a real hassle.

Any info is appreciated, thanks !
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Old September 16th, 2015, 18:03   #2
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For some reason I want to say that the froglube and propane, maybe the silicone as well, don't mix? Test froglube and propane together and see what happens, maybe that's the reason why, who knows?
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Old September 16th, 2015, 18:20   #3
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I use the paste and have never had a problem with any of my gbb's.
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Old September 16th, 2015, 18:27   #4
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I've never use it. But I just did a quick search from its Web page, it's designed for rs use. Seems like it is for high temperature. Our propane airsoft is low temperature, lower than zero, it could cold burn your hand. And this lube is paste type and you need to heat it up to apply on contact surface. For rs , it will be heat up by the firing power to get the best perform. But in airsoft chamber, the temperature could reduce the performance and even harden it In a long run. That's only my thought! Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old September 16th, 2015, 19:10   #5
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I used to use frog lube with same application, but stopped.

I use silicon oil 25-30wt for plastic (nozzle, etc.) and I use this from crappy tire for moving metal parts, been working well on my gbbs 5ever.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/pe...l#.Vfn2FRFVhBc


In anycase, you should immediately clean your gun after use . #OCD
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Old September 16th, 2015, 19:28   #6
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I use 25wt rc shock oil for all rubber gas seals and frog lube paste for all metal on metal contact.

Never bothered to heat it and I field strip and clean my gun after every game applying new paste each time. #OCD!

I've never used it at cold temperatures but I would suspect it would harden and eventually freeze up when approaching -0c.

Nor have I noticed a sticky gunk with frog lube paste but it is a organic product so I can see how it could break down with time and if used liberally can attract dust and other debris.

My advice is stick to pure silicone oil for the seals and only use greases or paste for the slide, action, trigger and hammer.

Try the paste as I suspect the liquid might evaporate leaving a thick residue.

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Old September 16th, 2015, 20:17   #7
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I've never use it. But I just did a quick search from its Web page, it's designed for rs use. Seems like it is for high temperature. Our propane airsoft is low temperature, lower than zero, it could cold burn your hand. And this lube is paste type and you need to heat it up to apply on contact surface. For rs , it will be heat up by the firing power to get the best perform. But in airsoft chamber, the temperature could reduce the performance and even harden it In a long run. That's only my thought! Correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm pretty sure in the minds of most RS shooters its more of a gimmick/scam product, it gunks up in real firearms just as badly as it does in anything else
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Old September 16th, 2015, 20:43   #8
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From some blog I read this week on the interwebs, they claim froglube is nothing more than coconut oil with mint stink added... On the interwebs, must be true lol
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Old September 16th, 2015, 21:13   #9
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Ok so I guess I'll provide a bit more details. First I only use frog lube on metal on metal parts (slide, frame, barrel lugs, etc..) for air seal components I use 15w silicone shock oil. the gunking doesn't happen after use, but rather when I leave my pistols in storage. I mean it doesn't gunk to the point that you can rack the slide, but it is noticeable, and after field stripping my 1911 the surfaces on which it was applied feels sticky rather than slippery.
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Old September 17th, 2015, 03:24   #10
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though froglube refuses to provide MSDS sheets (that in itself is extremely sketchy) making it difficult to actually tell what exactly it is, its been reasonably verified by private testing that it is simply an organic bean oil with very wax-like properties (including SOLIDIFICATION OF LUBRICANT at 20 degrees!!!), wax is not a gun lube, and organic oils break down, and even mold as has been reported on multiple occasions by shooters, do NOT use this stuff in your guns, guys
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Old September 17th, 2015, 09:21   #11
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Honestly, just go with shock oil, and the ultra slick I linked earlier. I'm sure you got plenty of craptires around you in sauga .
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Old September 17th, 2015, 09:58   #12
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N_Force is correct in that Frog Lube was designed for real firearms which heat up as it's fired. GBBS have the opposite effect and cools down when fired.

Another thing to keep in mind is that application is important. You need to thoroughly clean the gun of any factory lube with a degreaser, heat up the components, apply the frog lube and let it cure for at least an hour. Then you are supposed to wipe everything off, only a film of it is supposed to remain.

Not sure what the instructions are for the liquid version, but that's what you are supposed to do for the paste.

Having said all that, there are cheaper and more suitable lubricants for airsoft guns than frog lube like others have suggested already.
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Old September 17th, 2015, 10:34   #13
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I am a fan of Dow 33 and 55 myself. I have 2 giant tubes of the stuff.
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Old September 17th, 2015, 22:51   #14
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I use Dow33 but not Dow55. Dow55 can cause your o-rings to swell.
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