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Old October 4th, 2012, 03:29   #98
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1. What part of the slide / frame absorbs the impact of the frame coming forward? I am pretty sure that when the slide racks back, the spring absorbs the impact since without the rod in, the slide goes back further. The reason I ask why I that I wonder if a stronger spring would cause more wear and tear on specific parts.
The slide hits the chamber on your outerbarrel and the kinetic energy travels down towards your hop up unit and transfers to your lower assembly.

A stronger spring will always cause more stress on some parts of the gun as opposed to the weaker stock one. What you have to watch out for is the screw casing on the front the of the lower assembly. This is the first component that usually breaks on Marui glocks.

WE's frame seems sturdier than Marui's to be honest. But I can't say for sure that WE has addressed this flaw with their frame. Mine hasn't broken yet but I don't use it all that often to begin with.

There have also been reports of the WE outerbarrels breaking very easily. I've heard that the barrel splits in half or severs at the base of the chamber. But again I can't comment on this issue because I haven't ran into it personally.

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DO Shock Buffers help absorb the impact of the motion of the slide? If not, what is the point of them.
Not forward but it will absorb the backward forces. You will feel less kick when the gun cycles compared to when there is no buffers installed.

You can't really avoid the kinetic energy of the slide moving forward. most of that energy is created on the slide itself , not the internals.

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If you use something soft to shortstroke the spring, like o rings, would this serve the same purpose as shock buffers?
Theoretically yes. But because you are using soft materials like the o-ring, you would need many o-rings to take the same amount of force as a proper buffer would. That's why most buffers are made of hard rubber or soft plastic.

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What is the point of buying a stronger spring and short stroke it? Wouldnt the recoil be the same as a standard strength spring?
This is mainly done to improve the rate of fire of the gun. This helps conserve your gas reservoir vastly since the slide will travel a shorter distance at a faster rate.

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I cant visualize how the schock buffers affect the spring. Right now in my gun, the orings are placed so that the spring can fully compress, but If I add one more, it does not. Does the spring get fully compressed when I add more o rings?
When you add more buffers (in your case the oring), the spring will always be in a compressed state. Think about it. The nature of the spring is push out. When you put a buffer, you are keeping the spring from "springing out."

If your spring is a weak spring, the spring will fully compress. If you have something like a stiff 150% spring, it won't because the spring would be too powerful.

It also depends on the amount of coils and how stiff that the spring has. For example, The Shooter's Design spring has less coils and is shorter but is more stiff. Guarder's has more coils and is longer than Shooter's Design spring but is less stiff. Both of these springs are measured to 150% strength.

Remember that springs get harder to compress when they "coil up". So if you already made it so that the spring is already compressed (adding buffers) to begin with, it will be even harder for it to compress even further when the trigger is pulled.

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I was troubleshooting one of my leaky army mags and I took off the top gasket. When I tried to put it back one, it would not seat properly with the magazine and it would sit about a half centimeter high. The rubber is on correctly. Even if I pressed it down SUPER HARD, it would not seat flush. Because of this, I broke the wholes in the plastic magazine gasket.

7. Can you explain why this happened and are there any replacements you recommend? The only one I have found is by building fire. Army mags suck.
I have to see what happened.

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So right now I have come to the conclusion that I need to either buy marui or we mags.
That's what I've told you from the start. Marui's may be expensive but they still outlast most of the other TM based-Glock mags out on the market. In airsoft, you always get what you pay for.

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8. What parts need to be modified to have a full auto g17? Just thinking about it,for sure dont want it.
Get a Glock 18c, rip out all of it's internals and custom fit it to your G17.

...Or you can just buy a Glock 18c.

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What is different in a glock 18c mechanism?
The G18c has a totally different set of internal set up. The BBU and the loading muzzle internals, in its entirety, is different as it has to house the internal fire select function of the pistol. The hammer assembly is different because it has to accomodate the seperate full auto sear.

The trigger bar is different(G18c has a thicker trigger bar). The hammer housing is different (has different cuts and pins). The rear sight and mounting screw is different.
...and so on and so on.

You can't swap the internals of the two.
..nor the slide.

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Do you have any pictures of shock buffers ? short stroke on glocks?


There's one I made from things I found around the house. Get resourceful!! Use everything in your household!!!

EDIT: You'll you've stroked the gun if the slide catch doesn't engage on empty. This is because the slide can't travel far enough since the buffers will be blocking its path.
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