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Cobrajr122 March 6th, 2015 23:35

While these new impact ratings are indeed well below what we play at - I just want to add that they test using steel balls, which will transfer far more energy into the eyebro than an airsoft BB.

Either way - another great reason to stick with milspec only.

ThunderCactus March 6th, 2015 23:45

Had someone else work it out to 1.14j
Sooooooo we're all in agreement it's well below 3j

ThunderCactus November 29th, 2016 15:00

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Ive been meaning to update the number on this but havent had time to spend an hour looking up facts and figures all over.
But here's a PSA from Manitoba's own Eddie Creek field owner:
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PSA...
Player today nearly lost an eye.
The round blew the back piece of the lense out. And got some in the eye.
This is a reminder.
Do not cheap on on eye pro. And just testing them by shooting at it with a gun may not do it. This player did test fire on the glasses...
Buy proper. Well fitting. Full seal eyepro.
They have yet ti create replacement eyes everyone.
These glasses were test shot to see if they could withstand a hit, and they passed that test. But shooting the lens weakens it. And like Ive said before, just because the field limit is 1.6j doesn't mean everyone out there understands joule creep, or is playing by the rules.

Remember, a Z87.1+ rating by itself doesn't mean jack shit. Any Chinese company can machine that rating into a mould and fill it with plexiglass or some shit.
A Z87.1+ rating means absolutely nothing unless there's actual documentation behind it. This is why brand name is important.

Ricochet November 29th, 2016 16:10

Most manufacturers will also tell you that after one strike or scratch, the eyewear is done. Buy proper ballistic lenses from reputable companies, from reputable retailers, period. You don't necessarily need full seal (depending on field rules or insurance), but your eyewear should fully protect the eyes from all angles and be properly lashed to your head by a proper retention strap.

LimaCharlie November 29th, 2016 19:03

Pyramex a good company then? If anyone has experiene with them.

Ricochet November 29th, 2016 20:31

If you're in Burnaby, go to DS Tactical in New West on the corner of 8th and 12th. They carry Oakley, Revision and Smith. I personally recommend the Revision Bullet-Ants for comfort and profile, but the Wolf-Spiders have better airflow.

ThunderCactus November 29th, 2016 20:35

Pyramex does industrial eyepro, so they're pretty good.
Edge as well.
You can get Z87.1+ and milspec glasses for >$10 and >$20 respectively, just make sure it's from a reputable company.

RainyEyes November 29th, 2016 22:30

Hmm that's a good point. How often do you replace eye pro after it's taken impact? I've been wearing my valken tactical sierra's for almost 6 years now. I've washed them, got them wet, got them shot at (has marks and scuffs on them). When is the telltale sign of the necessity to replace them BEFORE having a bb pass through like wet tissue paper and into my poor corneas?

chaz November 29th, 2016 22:39

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Originally Posted by LimaCharlie (Post 1994151)
Pyramex a good company then? If anyone has experiene with them.

I have a pair of pyramex goggles that have taken hits with no damage. Optics just aren't very clear.
Personally switched to Smith Optics Aeris and OTW's from Revision glasses.

Ricochet November 30th, 2016 00:00

Go through like paper? Probably not, but let's put it this way; I've had a hard hat literally disintegrate in my hands after a time. If you're talking about safety level eyewear, then the typical rating is one strike or one scratch and they're done. They'll certainly take more punishment, but that's the specs. Ballistic and Paintball grade lenses are supposed to be higher, but after a time, especially if you're cleaning them with chemicals and/or applying whatever anti-fog crap, the lenses will break down, not to mention sunlight, dirt, etc. This may take years however. If your lenses are old, scratched up, or you don't have complete faith in them, then it's likely time for a change. Also look for material breakdown and tiny stress fractures around the edges.

Cliffradical November 30th, 2016 08:10

Eyewear should be carefully inspected per hit and considered disposable.

Think of the money you spend as insurance against never being able to see again.
I do not understand how people can take this so lightly, or even necessarily scapegoat retailers for their own lack of research and eye safety/ paranoia.

Teeth are one thing, but eyes! Eyes!!!!

chaz November 30th, 2016 13:02

Buy something that has replaceable lenses. Done!
Initial output might be high but replacement lenses are cheap.

ThunderCactus November 30th, 2016 16:00

Microfractures are what cause lenses to break apart when hit. But can you tell when a lens is going to blow apart on the inside like that? Really doubt it.
It's usually due to the lens not being flexible enough, so instead of flexing to absorb impact, it blows apart on the inside. But can be caused by hardening over time, like exposure to chemicals. Not sure if UV exposure does the same thing.
If you have an impact dimple on your lens, then you should replace it. Dimples are induced stress and weaken the lens. Regardless, you probably shouldn't go more than 2 seasons with the same set of lenses.

Ricochet November 30th, 2016 16:36

Eventually the protective coatings wear down and the lense will become more susceptible to UV and other exposure, though this can take years, even with safety glasses. Micro-fractures can be seen if you look carefully. This is why you should ever clean your eyewear with anything more than warm soapy water and approved anti-fog. Most ballistic lenses will be fully BB resistant for years and years.

Cobrajr122 November 30th, 2016 16:58

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Originally Posted by RainyEyes (Post 1994167)
Hmm that's a good point. How often do you replace eye pro after it's taken impact? I've been wearing my valken tactical sierra's for almost 6 years now. I've washed them, got them wet, got them shot at (has marks and scuffs on them). When is the telltale sign of the necessity to replace them BEFORE having a bb pass through like wet tissue paper and into my poor corneas?

I replace mine once a year or so, they see a LOT of use outside of airsoft. Lots of sweat, UV, and bug dope damage.

Most companies recommend replacing lenses often or after light damage though every manufacture is different. Check your manual.


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