Deadly Designs' Hybrid 66
 

So here it is, people have rumored about one by VLTOR on here and many other forums but nobody has ever seen one actually produced and released, so I took the opprotunity to do it. SO far its only set for G&P buffer tubes but soon I will thread them for WE/RS threads.:tup:
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Looks great man!

Love the engravings.

I have more pics showing the entire rifle but those were taken with the prototype part.... and lets just say I dont like my prototype part =P

I'd want to see how long it would hold up compared to the original part

Are you saying how long it would compare to the original plastic hinge plate? If you are this one will probably last you a life time. Billet 6061 T6 Aluminum.

Me want!

Very nice, could you post complete rifle picture ?

I dont have a full rifle pic with the new updated part shown in the pics... but I have one with the prototype.

Here is a half a rifle pic WITH new version
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and here is the prototype full rifle
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Rifle is in the machine shop so ill bring it home tomorrow and snap some full pics

Damn - just when I thought I was finished pimping my SCAR!

I already have one of your Al part #27's so I presume all I would need would be the new hybrid part 66 thingy' I would prefer one cut for real steel buffer tube threads though, and anodized black (and yes I'd gladly pay extra for that).

So, what's the drill for ordering one of these and those extended rails? Would one contact you offline to arrange payment and such?

Also, what would be the chances of getting you to make a part #15? One of the holes has partially chewed threads (where the torx-head body screw engages) and I'd like something a little more durable than pot metal for that part anyways. I tend to take my gun apart a lot for a good once-over cleaning so the chewed threads thing is a bit of an issue. Mind you, I haven't tried heli-coils but I don't think they make them that small.

Thanks and cheers - Dan

PS: I really like the tool-path marks! I think it really adds some interest and texture to the part. Heck, [some] people pay a lot of money to get stainless steel appliances and cabinetry with brushed patterns that pale in comparison!

As of right now im not "producing" anything, but if you'd like you can send me your WE/RS buffer tube so I can get the thread pitch and specs and Ill make a 66 for ya.
The Rails I just kinda drew up on a boredom day, I have one issue with the rails and its when you charge the weapon if you wrap your finger all the way around the charging handle you might grind your finger across the tops of the rails. So I just half finger the charging handle. If you'd like a set as well let me know.
As for part #15, Ill have to rip my scar apart and see which part it is as well as what it would take to make it. Might have another winner on my hands =)

So if you want the 66 and rails PM me and we can discuss all that.
Thanks for the intrest :D

If I had a RS buffer tube I'd send it to you! :eek:

The only buffer tube I have is a part of my VFC M4. This is somewhat less than optimal for use with your hybrid 66 because it isn't a real buffer tube.

Part 015 is indicated in the photo below (click the thumbnail for the larger version):

http://www.onepointed.com/dan/others...-015-thumb.jpg

Personally, I think the part should be stainless or something that won't strip in a light breeze as it is far too easy to mis-align the torx-head body scews. I don't know enough about the black art of metal fabrication so aside from higher material costs I have no idea what is involved in machining stainless versus Aluminium.

It sounds like the rails aren't totally ergonomic and I only use my rails to mount one flashlight so I'll hold off there.

I am interested in the hybrid 66 because I would like to mount a UBR stock on my SCAR ... cuz that would blow people's minds!

Cheers - Dan

Bummer, Im trying to get ahold of a RS/WE Buffer as thats what I originally wanted to make the threads to match. Soon enough I should have one. Sometime after the new year I'd imagine.

I really Wish they didnt use those gay torx screws. I mean torx is good but the screws they used are shit. They have a short thread and very little chamfer so its hard to get started in the hole and easy to cross thread and strip.

As for making the part out of stainless that would require different tooling. Maybe some CRS (Cold Rolled Steel)? I mean its cheaper and weaker than most steels but the only reason you need it is to keep from stripping, and with that you shouldnt have a problem.

With the rails Im thinking maybe a different Charging handle? I cant change the rails at all because they are US GOV't MIL SPEC, so taking them down in width would well make them worthless as no accessory would be able to clamp onto them.

really cool... ugly as hell IMO, But really cool. Good work man.

RS buffer tube threading is 1 3/16 - 16 TPI.
it's called Special Thread HS TAP

Sweet, Thanks for the Thread size there Dynamo, Now I just gotta get a buffer tube to check the threads with. (I machine the threads, I dont use a tap)

I like the torx head fastener but you are bang on in that the ones WE chose to use are completely inadequate. I purchased my SCAR used and one of the front body screws was stripped out. I noticed this with paintball guns when I used to play years ago; steel screws mating with Al threads does not a happy combination make.

This is just the type of discussion I hoped to kick off. As you can tell, my knowledge regarding metal fabrication and material selection is basically non-existent. I guess I should have merely stated the goal (threads that don't strip when you look at them wrong) as opposed to suggesting a material!

If you do ever make a part 015 in CRS, kindly let me know as I'd buy a few in a heartbeat!

I hear you on the rail width - please don't think I was advocating changing this as I do realize that it would make them absotively useless.

Kinda reminds me of a picture I saw of prototype in early dev stage. Good work.

Nice work,

but I'm not sure what it offers over the original butt stock ?

other than putting a pretty square corner in your nose

Dan,
One of the only other reasons I suggested CRS was with the tooling I have I can cut it. (I stick mainly with aluminum which is complete different tooling required for steel) But the CRS is an exception.

I took no offense on the rails just telling everyone why I cant change them much.

Brian, The options it offers is the use of any M4 stock, any one htat will fit on the buffer tube, and that appeals to many people as they like/LOVE their M4 stocks more than the WE scars'

Here is some food for thought:

SCAR with AR stock at VLTOR booth at 2011 SHOT Show

This image/link came from this page.

Yea that was my original thought was to use that, But I personally think its too thick. My 66 is .7" thick total, so its just under 3/4", keep it light and small, If I do anything it will be to 3d mill the whole back half of the part so it matches something like the VLTOR


I love the handgaurd they have on that scar, I want one =D

While I agree lighter is better, I have to agree with Brian that it is a little too squared off at the back and doesn't look quite right. If you made it as long as the RS part with the shape similar to an HK MP5 slither stock and hollowed it out from the inside for weight reduction, it would look better and also less likely to hurt your nose. It would also allow VFC SCAR owners (hint-hint) to use it on AEGs as well, with some minor wiring mods.

its a machine bored and machine cut threads, Its a thru and thru hole, if your talking about wiring to your buffer tube it will work as is. Ill have to see what I can do for a thicker part.

Any update on this?

I could use one right about now since my hinge plate died...

I second the part 015

I dont have much time now, but I just received a RS Buffer tube, so they will now be cut to RS/WE thread only. Like I told Adam mere seconds ago, I will have to look at part 15 for you guys. Hopefully my work load will lighten soon so I can get these parts made.